CreativePro Office and IE (thanks for your patience)

Jeff Denton

Mar 8, 2007 by Jeff

10 comments
Bugs, Development Progress, News

So I've had a couple of questions recently concerning IE support on CreativePro Office. Currently, the layout breaks in IE 6 and 7 and there are some JavaScript issues with IE as well - surprise, surprise! And CreativePro Office hasn't even been tested on Safari yet.

Yes, I do intend to support both Safari and IE (6 and 7) in the near future. So, what's the holdup? Well first of all, CPO is in beta (some might even say alpha) release which means things are changing and changing daily. Also, when building any web app, I prefer to work exclusively in Firefox as do most folks. Once the layout and JavaScript behaviors are nailed down in FF and I'm happy, then I know how things are supposed to work. I've found that testing in multiple browsers as I develop is a massive waste of time because the testing scenario usually goes something like this:

  1. Build layout in Firefox.
  2. Test layout in IE - find that it breaks.
  3. Fix layout for IE.
  4. Tweak some styles, elements, JavaScript, etc. in Firefox to accommodate changes made for IE.
  5. Test layout in Safari - find that it breaks, though not nearly as bad as IE.
  6. Throw out an entire chunk of the UI or JavaScript code make way for new features.
  7. Go back to #1 and repeat.

So until users are satisfied with a stable release of CPO, plan on using CreativePro Office with Firefox on a Mac or PC. I'm sorry if this presents an inconvenience and look for enhanced browser support some time in May of 2007.

Thanks for reading.

Jeff

 

Discussion: 10 comments

yourmanstan

yourmanstan

May 10, 2007
AMEN!

I really thought Microsoft would try to put out a decent product for once to compete with Firefox. Instead...they released another broken browser that even conflicts with their old browser. Now there are another two steps to resolve the problems between IE6 and IE7!

wouldn't the world be such a better place if microsofts IE page just pointed to http://www.getfirefox.com

thanks for the great work and don't worry about IE, i'm sure a great majority of people who need online project management would use / should use firefox anyway.
Jeff

Jeff

May 10, 2007
Thanks for the vote of confidence, yourmanstan. You know, I've had all kinds of feature requests over the past 2 weeks but not one single user has asked when CPO will be available for IE. Just checked my Google Analytics page and found that a steady 12% of users are on IE so I think I really should deal with this sooner or later. My other strategy may be to just cram CPO full of cool features and that would encourage folks to switch over to Firefox...juuuuuuust kiding, everyone :)

But seriously, thanks a lot for the post and for giving CPO a try - I appreciate it.
Clifton E

Clifton E

Sep 11, 2007
Please let me know when the IE application comes alive ! Thanks!!!

CE
Saulo Benigno

Saulo Benigno

Mar 24, 2008
What about Operaaaaaaaaaaaa ?

http://www.opera.com ?

Never heard of it ?
Jeff

Jeff

Mar 24, 2008
Hi Saulo,
Yeah I've heard of Opera...I just checked CPO in Opera and it does need a couple of tweaks before it will work right. But hey, coincidentally there is now a place to donate some funds for new development and features!

Thanks.
Enzo

Enzo

Sep 5, 2008
I agree with yourmanstan.
Developing multibrowser project/design is a pain in the &$%&$%. Jeff, thanks for all this great work, and in my opinion, you should focus on firefox or whathever browser you like and keep it. After all, its freeware and its a marvelous one.
alexut

alexut

Nov 7, 2008
there is a javascript that tries to fix ie6-ie7 behavior, you could try it.
Michael Thompson

Michael Thompson

Mar 11, 2009
If you're going to enforce FF usage, why not drop the GIFs and use alpha-channel-loving PNGs so some of the white matte edges around the UI can be replaced with transparency? :)
CK

CK

Dec 10, 2009
@Michael T -- you are right about the alpha-channel loving PNGs. And hopefully sometime soon IE6 will go the way of Netscape and evapourate from my existence. And IE7 boasting PNG support with (big air quotes) "minimal bugs" it should be fine. Hey, if you've been developing this thing from '02 and you're still in the game (project management tools online) then you are definitely doing most things right. I love this app. It's just replaced my GoogleDocs. Ef manual management and multiple places of data storage. Kudos!
CK

CK

Dec 10, 2009
@Jeff -- sorry. The second part of that comment was meant for you and everyone else: "Hey, if you've been developing this thing from '02 and you're still in the game (project management tools online) then you are definitely doing most things right. I love this app. It's just replaced my GoogleDocs. Ef manual management and multiple places of data storage. Kudos!"

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